Well, it had to happen. Another actor/comedian/singer that I used to think was even slightly entertaining has had to out their personal views and reminded me why I don't really watch any of these folks anymore.
It's not enough that Rosie O'Donnell portrays routine anti-smuggling interdiction (which happens every day) as some conspiratorial provocation for war (when the Iranians clearly have a much bigger reason to conspire). She had to go on and say that she believed there was some sort of government cover up OR direct involvement in the 9/11 incident.
For that she should be kicked to the curb and her limo drained of all gasoline and lubricating oil so she has to push it all the way back home.
People are poking fun at her left and right, but Popular Mechanics took it seriously and, once again, put together the definitive explanation as to why the towers collapsed (as if, watching it that day, from plane entry to burning embers).
For my own answer, I simply can't believe that this woman would get away with acting like she is a structural engineer. She's a G_d Damned comedian, for the love of all things holy.
I would like someone to give me a platform to vent my spleen on such morons.
I'll point to two other local disasters that were from similar issues: stress on beams and connections not meant to carry the weight.
Hyatt Regency Catwalk
In 1981, the famous "atrium catwalks" at the Kansas City Hyatt Regency collapsed. 114 people died and 200 were seriously injured. While the noted document discusses the technical engineering concepts that led to the collapse, the best part of the explanation (and probably the simplest that Rosie would understand):
The potential for disaster was cemented when the design was changed by Havens Steel Company. Instead of using the single-rod design originally proposed by G. C. E. International, the designers adopted a double-rod design. In this design, a set of rods would connect the fourth floor walkway to the trusses of the roof of the atrium, and a second set of rods would connect the second floor walkway to the fourth floor walkway independent of the first set of rods. These rods would be secured to the beams of the walkway by bolts at the end of each rod [8].
The single rod design and double rod design can easily be compared with an analogy. If one monkey is hanging on a branch, and another monkey is hanging below it on the same branch, then each monkey only has to support its own weight. If the second monkey is hanging onto the legs of the first monkey, then the first monkey must be able to hold both it’s weight and the weight of the first monkey or else they will both fall. Since the designers failed to understand very elementary concepts involving force and stress concentration, the plan for an engineering failure was created.
Get that, Rosie? Once the overall support structure for the towers was damaged, the entire building was damaged. The rest of the beams and support structures for each subsequent floor was forced to hold up the weight of the others. Something it was not designed to do.
Thus, with the first monkey having to hold up all the other 80 remaining monkies (floors), they all fell down.
Unfortunately, Rosie only chooses to imitate two of the three monkies, see no evil (Iranian mullahs aren't "evil" even though, if Rosie went to Iran she would either be hanged as a lesbian or forced to under go trans-gender surgery in order to get her man's lust for woman into a man's body) and hear no evil (obviously, the continued "Death to America" and "Wipe Israel off the Map" chants don't make it into Rosie's gigantic dressing room at the View to Stupidity):
Instead of "say no evil", Rosie decided to do this:
When she should have been doing this:
Kemper Arena Roof
If you're going to pretend to be an engineer, at least read the above link and get some clue about engineering before you speak. Of course, Rosie is too busy making a monkey out of herself and pretending she is still funny after all these years so she probably won't take the time.
Thus, I will excerpt a few important, edifying excerpts (I hope these words and concepts aren't too big for Rosie) - form and function:
6.1 STEEL
Steel is a very affordable and strong material. There are many different types of steel; however, all are composed of iron and carbon with small amounts of other metals in it that give it specific qualities. The production of steel in mass quantity has two different strengths. Regular structural steel has a yielding strength of 36,000 pounds per square inch and high-strength steel has a yielding strength of 50,000 pounds per square inch (Salvadori 64). However, steel can theoretically have a yielding strength of 4 million pounds per square inch. Right now, we have steel cables that have an ultimate strength of 300,000 pounds per square inch with an allowable stress of 150,000 pounds per square inch. This is strong enough to suspend the Leaning Tower of Pisa from a cable that is 1.1 inches in diameter (Salvadori 65).
However, there are some downsides to steel. It melts at relatively low temperatures, around 1200 degrees F, and becomes brittle at relatively high temperatures, around 30 degrees F. Without proper treatments, steel becomes useless and dangerous (Salvadori 65). In addition, if treated improperly, steel in a high building slices into pastry thin layers. This phenomenon is called lamination stress. Improperly welded joints cause similar stresses. Finally, repeated compression and tension fatigue steel (Salvadori 66).
Remember those underlined portions. Going on with the "weight" and "structure" aspects of the Kemper Arena incident:
13.2.1 SCENARIO
On June 4th, 1979 at 6:45pm, a downpour of rain with 70 mph hit Kansas City. Arther LaMuster, worker and only person in the arena at the time, heard odd noises 25 minutes later. He inspected the area and barely had time to get out as the center of the roof collapsed. It was determined later that approximately one acre, or 200 x 215 ft of roof collapsed. The air pressure, increased by the rapidly falling roof caused some of the walls to blow out. However, the portals remained undamaged. Ironically, thousands of architects there for the American Institute of Architects Convention had been sitting in the arena only 24 hours before (Levy 59).
Okay. Got that? As the roof came down, it compressed the air in the building. It had to go somewhere so IT WENT OUT through the walls causing an "explosion". The same phenomena as seen on the day the towers collapsed. Documented in many unfortunate, non-government organized, even non-terrorist, disasters.
Note the image below showing the planes took out significant structural support systems that are damaged by the planes:
You simply cannot change physics and chemistry. All things that Rosie knows jack about. As an actual engineer points out, steel will melt at 1,200 degrees farhenheit. A standard house (not Rosie's), fully furnished, can reach temperatures up to 4,000 degrees fahrenheit at its "peak". Maybe Rosie thinks the towers were embued with magical powers that could resist all known physics, chemistry and laws of gravity?
Now, an important picture that shows the top 30 or so floors of the building collapsing down on the remaining structure.
I would like Rosie to explain to us how the other 80 some floors were supposed to hold up under the weight of those top collapsing floors.
*crickets*
That's what I thought.
Now let's see what happens when you drop 30 floors and 2997 dead on Rosie's head:
Just what I thought.
As for the "radical Christians", here I am. I am about as radical as they come. That is to say, I don't congregate, I don't subscribe to any denomination and I have actually read the bible a few times. In a rather interesting, radical side effect, I decided that it did not tell me to kill anyone who did not believe as I do.
Thus, Rosie remains alive and able to spew all over the British, their captive sailors, the families of these sailors, the national tragedy of 9/11, the dead, their families and Christians in general.
Now, that is radical.
*psst - Barbara and the rest of the "View": If I believed in conspiracies, which hollywood is full of, I would guess that this is some effort to boost your ratings. You know, "even bad publicity is good publicity." I don't, however, believe that it was anything more than several of your folks showing complete and utter idiocy, a disregard for reality and a serious lacking in couth and compassion for all those who died and all those who were left behind.
I suggest, instead of the British apologizing, that your show should apologize instead. That, or get off the air because, like Rosie's old magazine, I have a feeling you are about to get canned."
I find it absolutely hysterical not to mention absurd that someone shilling for the Reich Wing Warfare State refers to his site as the "middle ground".
ReplyDeleteAt least my site on Blogger has an honest title.
First, the blog title is in reference to my location. In the middle of the united states.
ReplyDeleteSecond, I can't believe that you let your political ideology get in the way of good sense. Are you saying that you believe her theories on the whole "Gulf of Tonkin" or the government was somehow involved in 9/11 as some sort of active destructor?
Because, if you do, I probably don't have anything else to say to you since you will not be swayed even by obvious technical and factual points, whatever I said about Ol' Rosie.
Third, are YOU on my site shilling for readers? Since you mention your blog and it's title.
Gulf of Tonkin Theories?
ReplyDeleteYou cannot have it both ways.
On one hand you do not think the US government would lie to us about 9-11 or anything.. then you seem to think that the FOIA (freedom of information act..which states that the Gulf of Tonkin incidents were a black flag operation) are all lies too?
To quote one poster:
"In a rather interesting, radical side effect, I decided that it did not tell me to kill anyone who did not believe as I do."
But our government can do this everyday (selling 'freedom' at gunpoint in other countries) of the week and you just accept that??
Wake up and smell what you are shoveling.
Sincerely,
Jerry Mael - AT2 USN Combat Search And Rescue
The steel support beams were not in pieces, why were they all found apparently cut into small sections (by the collapse?) which could then be conveniently fit onto flatbed trailers?
ReplyDeleteWHY are there images from that day showing where thermate cutting charges had obviously sliced the beams at perfect 45° angles?
WHY did the investigators clear ground zero with no on scene investigation?
WHY did the investigators gather and keep flight 93 wreckage parts so professionally while the tower remains were hauled away and melted down in minimal time?
They should have treated the tower collapse just as much of a 'crime scene' as the flight 93 recovery.
But they did not. Bush said "we know who did this..we do not need an investigation"... yet Flight 93 was treated differently.
Gooliani ran off the firemen with police so they could scrape up the final remains of 1st responders and dump them into a landfill.
Finally, I will add that all 19 'perps' supposedly came from Saudi Arabia whom which the US has been funding with billions of dollars for decades.
ReplyDeleteRon Paul is the man to prevent this kind of stuff properly. Are we smart enough to elect him?