tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7152221.post109958187892316160..comments2024-03-23T07:49:50.940-05:00Comments on The Middle Ground: Learning Osama bin Laden: Patrick Henry? Mahdi? Or, Hitler in the Making?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7152221.post-1099670495256481102004-11-05T10:01:00.000-06:002004-11-05T10:01:00.000-06:00Well, now that we have some idea about what he thi...Well, now that we have some idea about what he thinks and says, we need to look at his ideology and then look at a plan by which to reduce it to ashes.<br /><br />I think some of it is happening now. While some people decry the president's repeated insistance that Islam is a religion of peace, they don't get the concept of "divide and conquer". to me, OBL needs to be divided from the base of Islam, even the fundamentalists. He must be left on the edge as the extreme of the extreme.<br /><br />There is a message that needs to be crafted and it needs to be stronger and better executed in my opinion and that includes the message of Americans expressing solidarity with the 'real' freedom loving Muslims of the world. Those that want freedom from oppression and the ability to practice their beliefs without instruct or demand from the government. Any government because governments are made by men, laws interpreted by men. God is the arbiter of faith and morals that helps guide men (remember we are talking about how to support them in their religion, but separate them from the lawless) he did not create governments and institutions. <br /><br />Something along these lines may help solidify the separation of "mosque and state" and the eventual demise of state created terrorism.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208095650375780838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7152221.post-1099631339559714802004-11-04T23:08:00.000-06:002004-11-04T23:08:00.000-06:00Wahabbis are... Bin Laden.
...as is al-Zarqawi, h...<I>Wahabbis are... Bin Laden</I>.<br /><br />...as is al-Zarqawi, hence his naming of his group "Talwid and Jihad". "Talwid" or "monotheism" is the halmark of Wahhabism as it considers worship at shrines, revence of Mohhamed and use of the Hadith to be the idolatry. Since the Hadith is Mohhamed's interpretation of the Koran (which actually moderates some of the Koran's harsher passages), they consider it not to be "inspired" by Allah like the Koran. <br /><br />Zarqawi's choice of names also hearkens back to Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab's book <I>Kitab at-tawhid</I> that detailed the aforementioned beliefs and in that way pays hommage to the sect's founder. (Al-Wahhab was the guy who was helped out by the Brits in the 1700's when they wanted to stir things up for the Ottoman's BTW.)G-Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10770308023843594923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7152221.post-1099627570675065702004-11-04T22:06:00.000-06:002004-11-04T22:06:00.000-06:00Hey Kat
I think you hit it pretty accurately. The...Hey Kat<br /><br />I think you hit it pretty accurately. The Islamists cannot for the life of them understand how the infidels have been able to best them these past few hundred years. As they see it, by all rights they should be the ones with world-wide hegemony. He wants to reestablish the Caliphate. <br /><br />They want to be "free" to live in accordance with Islam as practiced in the old dynasties, as it was in Damascus and Baghdad. <br /><br />Right now they're frustrated, and look at what they have to put up with; secular authoritarian governments that can barely provide basic services, the usual third-world corruption, military impotence, and the knowledge that <EM>everything</EM> they use(from their cars to TVs to weapons to toothbrushes) was invented in the West. Imagine how it grates on them, <EM>especially</EM>considering how they believe that Islam is superior(no muliculturalism for them!). They ask themselves "how has God allowed this to happen?" <br /><br />Like many extreme religionists, they blame themselves. "We must not have been good Muslims." The answer presents itself; become more fundamentalist and reestablish the old-style Caliphate that Allah wanted.<br /><br />You are dead-right about his not caring about the Palestinians. When he first started issuing fatwas in the early '90s they were way down on his list of greviances. Even by the late '90s they had only climbed to #4, as I recall (I'm going off memory). Only when he saw that the Palestinians were useful politically did he make a big issue out of them and their problems. <br /><br />But what really set him off was the sight of US troops in Saudi Arabia during and after the Gulf War. The Saudi regime was corrupt enough to him, but infidels in the hold land? Insult of insults!<br /><br />Anyway, those are my thoughts, Kat. Great post of yours, and as you can see you got my intellectual juices stirred.Tom the Redhunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01989584196825992054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7152221.post-1099621997759480412004-11-04T20:33:00.000-06:002004-11-04T20:33:00.000-06:00I think I am thinking of Hezbollah as an Iranian b...I think I am thinking of Hezbollah as an Iranian backed terrorist/political group. I assume that is Shi'a although I can't find the information directly on google as to what their religious make up is.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208095650375780838noreply@blogger.com